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Taizé Esq
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Hi all.
I have joined for reading pleasure and the occasional conversation, when something grabs my leg!
I have not been brought up or brought into heathen theology, by fate or friend, but my membership here is of a friendly nature and for the opportunity to listen to all your ideas.
Indeed, there is a lot to read here to keep me entertained.
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Godward
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Welcome on HTF, Taizé Esq! Can you perhaps tell us some about what your own view is on the theological and philosophical level? 
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Wolfhard
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Taizé Esq,
Welcome to the Heathen Theology Forum!
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Taizé Esq
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: Esq |
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To explain my mind and/or religion in an instant should be easy, because all I feel that I need to say is "I believe in god". However, due to the nature of all, life isn't always that easy to get along with.
The deeper insight into my ideology of god is both detailed and best summed up in my own literature, but I am happy to give my comments on any related topic, that anyone here is itching for.
However, I cannot be here very often as I am a very busy person, but if I can, I will try my best!
My theological or philosophical theorem, contemplation, inspiration or enlightenment is summed up in the words, "simplicity is best". To briefly elaborate, that means I believe in god and that god/belief in god holds all the answers one needs in order to find a mentaly comforting solution to the creation and meaning of the universe.
It is polite of you to ask of my ideas, thank you.
The Dictionary.com definition of Heathen is as follows:
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a. One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
b. Such persons considered as a group; the unconverted.
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a. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
b. Such persons considered as a group. |
I think that just because one does not neccessarily acknowledge a historical character as god, does not mean that this historical character is ill respected by the one in subject and to call one uncivilised, or unenlightened, when one does at least respect the god of Christianity, is very rude.
I believe that there is one god with many faces and that god will respect many religions as "the truth", if this respect is similarly an aspect of those religions.
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Maurer
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Taizé:
Nice of you to post that definition!
Of course, as you have probably gathered, Heathenry does in fact place faith in the Divine. Granted, however, our conception of Divinity is far different from (and if I may say so, far grander than) that of the Jews, Christians or Muslims.
We don't harbor any ill-will towards the persons of Moses, Christ or Mohammad. But we are less than pleased with the actions of many of their followers.
| You wrote: | | I believe that there is one god with many faces and that god will respect many religions as "the truth", if this respect is similarly an aspect of those religions. |
I think you will be most interested in the notion of Universal Divinity we discuss in our presentation on Integral Theology. Have a look and let us know what you think. I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
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Taizé Esq
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:45 am Post subject: Esq |
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| Maurer wrote: | | We don't harbor any ill-will towards the persons of Moses, Christ or Mohammad. But we are less than pleased with the actions of many of their followers. |
Indeed. Myself also.
But these people weren't really followers, just people born into a religion who kept the label in the hope that it may give them a good image.
One may have been born into a muslim family, called oneself a muslim and even attended muslim gatherings, but one had no heart and therefore one was not a muslim.
Similarly the word muslim, in the above paragraph, can be replaced with any good religion in the world.
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Maurer
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Taizé:
Good point! Perhaps I should have said:
"...those who believe themselves to be their followers..."
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Monne Diedrixsone
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Welcome Taizé Esq. Are you aligned to the Taizé community?
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Brisamen
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Wolf
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Welcome! 
Heilsa! |
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Taizé Esq
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: Esq |
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| Sigifrith wrote: | | Welcome Taizé Esq. Are you aligned to the Taizé community? |
It is a very special place and one that shaped who I am.
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RaidoHaglaz
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Welcome from a fellow new member, Taizé.
Would you mind explaining what this Taizé community is, as I have never heard of it.
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Taizé Esq
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| Quote: | Taizé, in the south of Burgundy, France, is the home of an international, ecumenical community, founded there in 1940 by Brother Roger. The brothers are committed for their whole life to material and spiritual sharing, to celibacy, and to a great simplicity of life. Today, the community is made up of over a hundred brothers, Catholics and from various Protestant backgrounds, from more than twenty-five nations.
At the heart of daily life in Taizé are three times of prayer together. The brothers live by their own work. They do not accept gifts or donations for themselves. Some of the brothers are living in small groups –“fraternities” - among the very poor.
Since the late 1950s, many thousands of young adults from many countries have found their way to Taizé to take part in weekly meetings of prayer and reflection. In addition, Taizé brothers make visits and lead meetings, large and small, in Africa, North and South America, Asia, and in Europe, as part of a “pilgrimage of trust on earth”. |
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RaidoHaglaz
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Hm, very interesting. So these people actually succeed in living a simple and poor (in a material sense) life? That is something to have respect for, especially in an age where it is frowned upon, even called stupidity.
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Skaya
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Hello
Definitions in dictionaries tend to have been written by christians with a christian view point, I dont take much mind to the definition I see written there. 'Heathen' is not god-less or primitive or barbaric. Just another human who may be good or bad or somewhere in the middle. |
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Monne Diedrixsone
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Esq |
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| Taizé Esq wrote: |
It is a very special place and one that shaped who I am. |
A woman I used to know liked going there a lot, though she wasn't exactly a Christian. She went to Taizé because of the open vibe there, no matter how people experienced spirituality. I never went there myself, though.
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Taizé Esq
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| Sigifrith wrote: | | A woman I used to know liked going there a lot, though she wasn't exactly a Christian. She went to Taizé because of the open vibe there, no matter how people experienced spirituality. I never went there myself, though. |
Thousands from every culture and country flock to the hill top every year. |
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| Welcome on board. |
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Jephth
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FLechdrop
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| Glad to see you're back, Taizéan. We can use some life here, now. |
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Wolfhard
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Taizéan,
Welcome back!
- Wolfhard |
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Jephth
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FLechdrop
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| (You probably won't see him here much either these days, Taizéan.) |
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Jephth
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Wolfhard
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Taizéan,
Indeed, (among other things) Sinn means 'sense'. For an Englishman to pronounce it, one would say "zinn".
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Taizéan:
He took a break from the board after he got his second child within two years.
You can have a look at this thread for some more info. |
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Jephth
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Thanks to both of you. 
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